Feminismus-Reddit ist vielleicht nicht unbedingt so repräsentativ für den Feminismus an sich, aber ich mag, dass sie immer wieder Beiträge haben, in denen es darum geht, sich darin zu bestärken, dass Frauen die Opfer sind.
Diesmal geht es um Kosten des Frauseins:
I know that a lot, lot women are in underpaid or even unpaid jobs they’ve been pushed in by society, I know that there are a lot of women who got pregnant very early and couldn’t abort and are now struggling.. I don’t mean examples like these, when I am asking how much does it cost you more to be a woman. I would like to know, in disregard to how much you make, how much money you spend monthly or weekly for stuff you wouldn’t buy or take as a service if you would be a man?
It could be everything.. hygiene products including pink tax, manicure, make up, but also bigger spendings like an alarm system because you are for whatever reason are forced to life in a neighbourhood you feel unsafe, therapy for abuse in your childhood which wouldn’t have happened if you’d have been a boy etc. pp. I don’t know, what applies to you but I am curious to know because I recently had a conversation with a friend and he wouldn’t believe that it IS in fact more expensive to be a woman in our world.
Or maybe you don’t think so and you managed to free yourself from that, then I’d like to learn from you!
Sie geben sich ja noch nicht einmal die Mühe einen wirklichen Kostenvergleich zu machen, es geht schlicht um Kosten, die man – selbst wenn man sie freiwillig eingeht wie etwa bei Makeup – hat, weil man eine Frau ist ungeachtet von Kosten, die gegebenenfalls Männer haben, weil sie Männer sind.
Darunter soll dann sogar ein höherwertiges Alarmsystem fallen, weil anscheinend Frauen gezwungen sind in gefährlicheren Gegenden zu leben als Männer (?) oder Kosten eines Therapeuten, weil Männer natürlich keinen Mißbrauch als Kinder erlitten hätten, sondern nur Frauen.
Der nächste Einwurf:
Does having chronic illnesses that exist disproportionately in females count?
Erscheint etwas unfair die der allgemeinen Unterdrückung der Frau zuzurechnen, zumal Männer im Gegenzug mehr Arbeitsunfälle haben etc.
Eine Begründung wird immerhin nachgeliefert:
Yes because the medical industry is designed for male bodies and male presentation of symptoms. Women’s pain is also treated less seriously than men’s pain.
Hier noch eine größere Auflistung:
So I have a skewed perspective because I date a man who is pretty metro and definitely spends more on things like hair care and self care than I do. Also take aways, so we probably even out because of that 😂 But off the top of my head, the things I spend money on that he does not that have at least a casual link to my being a woman:
Make up. I love make up, so I probably spend ~£30 a month on bits of stuff, maybe more if I need to replace something like my foundation or I find an eyeshadow pallet I covert.
Clothing. My partner owns four pairs of trousers, five shirts and the necessary underwear, plus his work outfit (he’s a handyman). They are all super well made and last him ages. I have to replace things regularly because for some reason women’s clothing is just terrible quality even when it’s expensive. Jeans especially, give me six months and the back thighs of my jeans has split open entirely. Also I am a magpie at times and buy things I don’t need, just want.
Razors. The pink tax is real and annoying. Although men’s razors are actually better than women’s so that’s a great life hack. That said, I go through more blades because I shave more of my body and if I were a dude it would all be growing out, legs, armpits and beard and all! I spent a couple of months waxing my hooha too before I copped on to that being a ridiculous waste of money. Never once saw a man in that place.
Steel toe capped boots. I needed a pair for some work recently. For men’s sizes its really easy to find a cheap pair, heck they sell them in ALDI quite often. For women’s sizes, you’re looking at at least half the price again and even then they’re clearly not ergonomically designed for women’s feet and gait.
Being a wedding guest. Men can pick up a suit, shirt and tie relatively cheaply and wear it to every single wedding, and possibly even their job if they’re in that kind of work. Women’s formal dresses are insanely priced, and then there’s the handbag because they don’t have decent pockets, the jewellery, the shoes, the tummy holding in knickers because gosh forbid we bloat or have lump bits… And have you tried attending two weddings within the same friend group in the same outfit? Actually not many people really notice or care that much, but society tells us they do so we buy a whole new outfit anyway just in case.
Hair dye. I am a feminist therefore absolutely have bright pink hair, the incels are right on that one.
Cat food. I am a feminist therefore absolutely own a cat, the incels are right on that one too.
Ok those last two are bought by men as well, but never pass up an opportunity to mock an incel. The rest are all very flippant things for me because I am lucky enough to live alone in a nice enough area so I don’t feel the need to splash out on much protective stuff. But it definitely does all add up!
Und hier noch eine:
While I couldn’t begin to estimate a dollar amount, it is a fact that it’s just way more expensive to be a woman than to be a man.
Edit / tldr: it’s not as much about frivolities as it is about a combination of necessities and disparities / double standards.
Hygiene, skin and hair care, clothes and personal care — even for a „low maintenance“ woman — are going to cost more for us than for a man. The pink tax is real.
Toilet paper is free in public restrooms, feminine hygiene products, not always. And there is no male equivalent to monthly menstrual products. Factor in birth control while we’re at it.
Choose a career (or be forced into one by financial necessity) that is in an office/corporate setting, and you’re going to have to commit more time and money to looking professional.
I think it’s worth emphasizing that our time has a value on it. Men spend less time on their appearance, even less than women who do not use a lot of cosmetics.We cannot simply put on a clean shirt and trousers, run a comb through our hair, and go to work like a man can. There are still many workplaces where a lack of at least minimal makeup or hairy legs under a skirt is considered unprofessional.
For any formal or social event, we inevitably spend more time and money looking the part. So , again, I think it’s important to point out the loss of female time spent in order to simply be a woman who looks what is considered „presentable.“ Our clothes/fine washables need more time and money to keep clean and pressed as well.
Also, many products are made for an average man and women have to supplement with additional products to make them more user friendly for the average woman.
Because I am somewhat thin and have a short torso, most car seats are not designed in a way that makes driving safe or comfortable for me. Many of them have headrests that jut too far forward. So I had to research and invest in a seat pad. Back pads also are needed for office chairs for petite women as well as foot rests, otherwise the ergonomics are terrible.
Then comes our health. It’s simply way more expensive to reside in a female body than in a male one. Pregnancy and motherhood are black holes of expenses. And the older we get, the more we have to invest in staying healthy: Annual exams, often followed up by an increasing number of biopsies and follow-up tests just to make sure we are okay.
Another disgrace when it comes to health later in life: the ease and affordability of care for male ED, as opposed to the torturous ordeal and expense that women go through seeking care during peri and post menopause.
While we are fortunate, in a way, to have longer lifespans, most of us make less money over the course of our lives than men do. Mothers in particular pay a tremendous penalty for that particular joy/sacrifice/privilege.
So, generally speaking, women must make fewer dollars stretch over a greater number of years.
Das hier finde ich auch gut:
I don’t know about me specifically. But where I live, many older women are at the moment being scammed by conmen and it costs them their entire savings. And they are all costumers in the same bank. A bank who btw is very big, known for laundering money for Russia, and has declared that small amounts of money like these hard working women have lost, is not a big problem.
So through it all, child birth, maternal leave, working two jobs, taking care of their disabled adult children, elderly husbands, friends and being very careful with money, they get robbed specifically because they are women.
In an interview the bank sent the most skinny, condescending, white, inflexible, privileged woman they could find, dressed her up in very expensive clothes, and told the world that loosing your entire lifesavings isn’t as important as being able to trade on a whim if you’re very wealthy so the bank won’t lower the limit of how much money can be taking out of accounts to not offend maybe a total of 500 VIPS. Who are almost exclusively men.
Alles Evolution 