Testosteron, Libido und der „Male Gaze“

 Ich hatte hier schon einmal einmal aus der Aussage des Transsexuellen Griffin Hansburry zitiert, der sich über die Wirkung von Testosteron, gerade auf seinen Sexualtrieb äußerte, zitiert nach einem Buch.

Jetzt habe ich durch Zufall die etwas längere Stelle gefunden, in der er noch einiges mehr anführt:

Alex Blumberg
What were some of the changes that you didn’t expect?

Griffin Hansbury
The most overwhelming feeling is the incredible increase in libido and change in the way that I perceived women and the way I thought about sex.

Before testosterone, I would be riding the subway, which is the traditional hotbed of lust in the city. And I would see a woman on the subway and I would think, she’s attractive. I’d like to meet her. What’s that book she’s reading? I could talk to her. This is what I would say. There would be a narrative. There would be this stream of language. It would be very verbal.

After testosterone, there was no narrative. There was no language whatsoever. It was just, I would see a woman who was attractive– or not attractive. She might have an attractive quality– nice ankles or something– and the rest of her would be fairly unappealing to me.

But that was enough to basically just flood my mind with aggressive pornographic images, just one after another. It was like being in a pornographic movie house in my mind. And I couldn’t turn it off. I could not turn it off. Everything I looked at, everything I touched turned to sex.

I was an editorial assistant. And I would be standing at the Xerox machine, and this big, shuddering, warm, inanimate object would just drive me crazy. It was very erotic to me.

Alex Blumberg
The Xerox machine.

Griffin Hansbury
The Xerox machine. Or a car. I remember walking up Fifth Avenue one day, and this red convertible went by. It was a Mustang. And I remember just getting this jolt in my pants, this very physical, visceral, sexual reaction to seeing a red convertible.

Alex Blumberg
What did you do with that? I mean, what did you think?

Griffin Hansbury
Well, I felt like a monster a lot of the time. And it made me understand men. It made me understand adolescent boys a lot. Suddenly, hair is sprouting and I’m turning into this beast. And I would really berate myself for it.

I remember walking up Fifth Avenue, and there was a woman walking in front of me. And she was wearing this little skirt and this little top. And I was looking at her ass. And I kept saying to myself, don’t look at it. Don’t look at it. And I kept looking at it.

And I walked past her. And this voice in my head kept saying, turn around to look at her breasts. Turn around. Turn around. Turn around. And my feminist, female background kept saying, don’t you dare, you pig. Don’t turn around. And I fought myself for a whole block, and then I turned around and checked her out.

And before, it was cool. When I would do a poetry reading, I would get up and I would read these poems about women on the street. And I was a butch dyke, and that was very cutting edge. And that was very sexy and raw. And now I’m just a jerk.


So I do feel like I’ve lost this edge, this nice, avant garde kind of–

And I’ve gotten into a lot of arguments with women friends, coworkers who did not know about my past as a female. I call myself a post-feminist. And I had a woman say, you’re not a post-feminist. You’re a misogynist. And I said, that’s impossible. I can’t be a misogynist. I couldn’t explain to her how I had come to this point in my life. And to her, I was just a misogynist. And that’s unfortunate because it’s a lot more complicated than that.

Alex Blumberg
[LAUGHTER] I’ll say. Wow. Testosterone didn’t just turn you into a man. It turned you into Rush Limbaugh.

Griffin Hansbury
I know. That I was not expecting. That I was not expecting.

Ich finde die Wirkung von Testosteron, gerade auch bei Transsexuellen, aber auch bei sonstiger Einnahme, macht deutlich, wie die Biologie in unsere Denkweise eingreift. Ich verweise insoweit auch auf die anderen Artikel dazu in diesem Blog:

Es spricht dagegen, dass diese Verhaltensweisen durch eine patriarchale Gesellschaft erlernt sind, allenfalls ist das Unterdrücken dieser erlernt, eben weil es als höflich gilt, nicht zu schauen.

Testosteron führt insofern vielleicht zu einer höheren Anfälligkeit für sexuelle Signale, wahrscheinlich gerade optische Signale. Vielleicht ist es auch schlicht eine Folge der höheren „Geilheit“, dass diese mit einer höheren Priorität wahrgenommen werden.

Die Biologie übt hier nicht im engeren Sinne eine Kontrolle über unser Handeln aus, wir haben nach wie vor einen freien Willen und können uns entscheiden eine Frau nicht „anzustarren“.  Aber sie verändert unsere Motivation zu einem bestimmten Verhalten und dies kann so stark sein, dass wir das Gefühl haben, dass wir die bestimmte Handlung einfach durchführen müssen. Dazu noch einmal seine genaue Schilderung

And I walked past her. And this voice in my head kept saying, turn around to look at her breasts. Turn around. Turn around. Turn around. And my feminist, female background kept saying, don’t you dare, you pig. Don’t turn around. And I fought myself for a whole block, and then I turned around and checked her out.

„ich kämpfte gegen mich selbst für einen ganzen Block und drehte mich dann um, um sie mir anzuschauen“ gibt gut wieder wie die Biologie in dieser Hinsicht arbeitet.

Das Gefühl an sich, nämlich „ich drehe mich erst etwas später um, damit es nicht so auffällt“ dürften auch die meisten Männer kennen. Auch die Selbstüberredung und Rechtfertigung, die mit biologischen Motivationen zusammenhängt werden die meisten kennen „Ich schau nur ganz kurz, ich bin weit genug weg, sie wird es gar nicht auf sich beziehen“ oder „ich habe heute eh kaum was gegessen, der Tag war so anstrengend, ich habe mich die Schokolade wirklich verdient, ich hole die Kalorien morgen wieder rein“.

Das ihm selbst sein Verhalten so ungewöhnlich erscheint macht auch den Unterschied zwischen Männern und Frauen deutlich.

Doppelstandards bei Sexobjekten

In einem Artikel mit dem Tiel „Why can we perve on men but not on women?“ findet sich eine interessante Betrachtung:

The Crusaders rugby team were also at the pool, warming down after their weekend game.

As they walked to the water in their togs, all eyes turned to stare at their chiselled shirtless bodies. People openly gaped at their rippling muscles, with some wolf whistling and grabbing their phones to snap a discreet pic.

I’m not going to lie, I too indulged in a wee perve (it was impressive!) but I tried to keep it discreet and get on with my workout.

It was only afterwards that I thought about how overt everyone’s appreciation of the men was. No-one considered that the Crusaders might feel embarrassed or uncomfortable by the attention.

If it was a team of cheerleaders jumping around in the pool instead of rugby players, would men have been drooling in the same manner? Probably, but I think they would have been a bit more subtle about it and other women would have been clucking their tongues about „perverts“.

When a female sportswoman is revered for her body people cry foul about not appreciating her sporting prowess, but a male’s sexy body seems to be an accepted part of the package.

A similar incident happened at a dinner with friends recently.

My girlfriend and I were talking about our other friend’s younger brother who is 17 and, shall we say, developing nicely.

We were discussing the merits of his muscles, when a man at the table interrupted our chat.

„If that was us talking about a girl in that way, you’d all be calling us disgusting,“ he said.

It was true.

If they men had been speaking that way about a young girl, praising her curves, I would have been really creeped out.

There seems to be a massive double standard between the sexes when it comes to sexual objectification.

Why is it acceptable that women can sexualise and openly harass young men, but it can’t go the other way around?

In the case of the Crusaders, they had the added attraction of being famous bodies (a woman next to me shrieked in delight when she noticed Dan’s body among the crowd), but it doesn’t just happen with celebs either.

Go to a bar at night and you’re likely to see a group of women at a hen’s party clawing at young males. They grab them, grope them, call obscenities at them – all as part of the fun and games.

If it was men at a stag party pawing at young females, someone would step in and tell them to back off.

Ich vermute mal die Gründe sind die Folgenden:

  • Männer sind üblicherweise stärker als Frauen und neigen eher zu sexuellen Übergriffen
  • eine kulturelle Ausgestaltung der höheren biologischen Kosten von Sex führt zu einem besseren Schutz von Frauen
  • Frauen beschützen kann attraktiv machen und edle erscheinen
  • von Männern wird eher erwartet sich gegen Angriffe von Frauen wehren zu können
  • es wird aufgrund des höheren Sexualtriebes des Mannes auch eher erwartet, dass sie diese sexuellen Avancen nicht so problematisch finden.
  • weibliche Sexualität wirkt weniger bedrohlich
  • weibliches Gaffen kommt auch weit weniger vor