„Kann man Feministin sein und glauben, dass gesellschaftliche Unterschiede andere Gründe als Unterdrückung haben?“

Ein schöner Artikel von Kay Hynmowitz fragt beim Feminismus kritisch nach:

Sie stellt erst mal die typischerweise von Feministinnen verwendete positive Definition dar und führt aus, dass sie gegen diese gar nichts hat:

I know feminism is supposed to be about equal rights for women.  I’m pretty sure that would mean that men have no right to rape their wives or threaten female bloggers, and that women who want to should have the opportunity to become astronauts or the CEO of General Motors. If that’s what it is, then I say “Yay feminism!”  In fact, with that definition you could probably enlist Shailene, Pope Francis and Pinch Sulzberger to boot.

Und dann führt sie an, warum diese Definition eben auf den heute üblicherweise vertretenen Feminismus nicht mehr zutrifft, weil er ein „mehr“ umfasst:

But I get the sense – and please correct me if I’m wrong – that feminists mean something more than that.  Like maybe not just equality but precise, numerical equivalence: the same number of men and women CEO’s, fork operators, nannies, and systems analysts, the same number of diapers changed and dishes washed, the same pay for professional basketball players, the same number of bylines in the New York Times whether in the style section or the financial pages, the same price charged for ahair cut or a dry-cleaned shirt.

Da ist also im Gegensatz zu gleichen Rechten die Forderung nach Ergebnisgleichheit, die in der Tat eher eine häufige Forderung ist, mit gleichen Rechten aber erst einmal nichts zu tun hat.

Dann stellt sie dar, dass für die meisten Feministinnen noch erhebliche weitere Grundbedingungen mit dem Begriff Feminismus verknüpft sind, nämlich der Glaube an das Patriarchat in irgendeiner Form und das andere Gründe dagegen zwar bestehen, aber nicht diskutiert werden.

So, I’m wondering, Jen (is it ok if I call you Jen?):  Can someone be a feminist and believe there are reasons other than patriarchal social conditioning for some of these gender gaps?  Like, to take one example, maybe women aren’t as interested in following pro basketball as men are? I was surprised to find out recently that Sweden still has one of the most sex segregated labor markets anywhere.  Women are teachers, social workers, and child care workers, men mechanics, and CEO’s!  Sweden!  Where teachers can’t say “Good morning, Boys and Girls” because they don’t want boys and girls to be reminded that some of them are boys and some are girls (though it’s a good guess the little rascals keep thinking about it anyway.)  Mind you, I’m not saying I know these differences between the sexes are innate (is it ok to say sexes and not genders?), but the other day I read some stuff about oxytocin and testosterone and even though Gloria Steinem said that research on that kind of thing is “anti-American,” it got me to thinking that it’s possible.  Isn’t it?

Dann zeigt sie ironisch die Männerfeindlichkeit im Feminismus auf:

As for man-hating, I understand that when prominent Second Wavers Robin Morgan said “man-hating is an honourable and viable political act’ and Susan Brownmiller said “Rape is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear” this was youthful excess at a wild and crazy time, and you shouldn’t take them literally. I get that.

Klar werden sich viele Feministinnen diese Frauen und ihre Statements nicht zurechnen wollen. Die „Rape Culture“-Theorie und Brownmiller und gerade der Gedanke, dass Rape Culture dazu da ist, Frauen über Angst in ihrem Platz zu halten, so dass daraus abgeleitet wird, dass alle Männer von der Rape Culture profitieren, ist aber immer noch weit verbreitet im Feminismus.

But then I see #YesAllWomen, the twitter hashtag implying that a mass killer, whose murder victims included 4 men and 2 women, someone sick enough to be prescribed apowerful anti-psychotic drug, is evidence not of mental illness but that we live in a misogynistic society.  Or I read that we live in a “rape culture” which I take to mean most people – men mostly – think rape is hunky dory, even though rape is illegal, decried, and  at an all time low.   Or that if you think working class boys and men are in a very bad way in the labor market and schools, that this will make them lousy husbands and fathers, thereby ensuring a new generation of struggling low income single mothers, you are perpetuating“a myth”.  So my question is can you be bothered by male-disparaging language and the predicament of minority and working class males and still be a feminist?

In der Tat springen auch Feministinnen, die sich vielleicht von den Zitaten oben distanzieren würden, schnell wieder auf den gleichen Zug auf, wenn sie über „Rape Culture“ reden. Und feministische Mythen mit Männern als Täter gibt es eben immer noch genug, um durchaus den Vorwurf der Männerfeindlichkeit zu stützen

Und dann stellt sie noch einmal die Kritikunfähigkeit der Feministinnen dar:

Please don’t be mad – because I’ve noticed that sometimes feminists call people who ask questions like these “anti-feminists” like they’re the Ayatollah or something – but can folks like that liberal columnist who thinks that whole 77-cents-for-every-dollar-earned-by-men thing is “pay gap demagoguery” be feminists?  How ’bout people who are skeptical about numbers showing there is as much rape at Yale as there is in Detroit?  The other night at a dinner party, a women’s rights activist I know remarked how terrible it is that there’s never been a woman mayor of NYC.  Another woman asked “Why is that evidence of discrimination?  When women run for office they are just as likely as men to win.  At any rate, be careful what you wish for. Remember Christine O’Donnell?”  I got the impression feminists aren’t supposed to say things like that, because afterwards the activist looked really ticked.

Sie schließt damit ab, dass es richtig ist, dass man wissen sollte, was man kritisiert, dass das aber beim modernen Feminismus noch eher dazu führt, dass man ihn kritisieren kann:

So, Jen, I totally agree people should know what feminism is before they start trash talking the movement that brought us so many rights.  And I really believe today’s feminism probably has a sound, generally agreed-upon definition that even 22 year old actresses can understand.

Da hat sie durchaus recht.